Listing Updates

The listings data has been updated… again!

Frequency Coordinator, Dave Karr KA9FUR has been hard at work trying to get caught up and get the data out to our membership. If you have a pending coordination in progress by today you’ve most likely received an email from Dave updating you on the current status. Again… this website is always your best source of current listings!

Listing Updates

The listings data has been updated. Click on any of the pre-formatted listing types under “Repeater Listings” for current information. This WAR Inc. website is always your best source of current listing data.

What’s the ARRL Repeater Directory issue all about?

And to follow that up, many have asked why the data in the current League publications is wrong or out of date. The front page of this site has a side-bar which lists documents you can review on your own. Let’s just agree that it’s a complicated issue that we had hoped to resolve. So far, it’s not worked out that way.

The ARRL began the process of having individual coordinations updated by submitting data to their website. The data was supposed to then be forwarded on to the frequency coordination body representing a specific region of the U.S. To the best of our knowledge, WAR Inc. never received a request to verify a manual data submission.

Each year, the ARRL issues a contract to enable them to publish the data WAR Inc. submits (electronically). This contract lapsed, and due to language WAR Inc. could not agree to without modification, no contract has been in place for the past few years. However, the ARRL continues to publish stale information without consent.

The larger issue concerning the inability to submit coordination data electronically resulted in even greater frustration. When the League decided to try the manual approach, WAR Inc. felt it was outside its capabilities to enter and verify all of the coordinations in our state. For several years we submitted our data (as did other coordination councils) electronically without incident. In fact, WAR Inc. tried on numerous occasions during the past decade to help the League to modify their ingest procedures which would have made the entire submission process much more efficient.

In 2015 the ARRL decided to hire an outside contractor to try and deal with the data submission issue. Again, WAR Inc. tried to help by offering constructive criticism during the process. To the best of our knowledge, the project must have had a finite deadline and all correspondence was cut short.

The result was an incomplete data format which WAR Inc. decided not to support, and separately has unresolved issues with the ARRL’s breach of the expired term limited agreement as well as the new agreement’s unlimited use terminology. Due to changes in the ARRL’s policies and terms of their new agreement(s), we have learned that there are several additional coordination councils which have also terminated their relationship with ARRL Inc.

A decision was made by the WAR Inc. BoD to discontinue efforts to assist the League as it was taking too much time away from our core responsibilities. No resolution is in sight, so your best source of current coordination data, as it always has been, is our web site.

Just who is running the joint?

As of September 5th, 2015 Dave Shank KA9WXN resigned his role as Chairman of WAR, Inc. And, as of September 23rd, 2015 Pete Johnson AB9PJ resigned his role as Vice Chairman. Both Dave and Pete have cited their increased participation with work and family duties.

Dave is responsible for the physical plant of a large public television system and has taken on enormous projects this year.

Pete is in the telecommunications industry and is experiencing a heavy work load do to personnel issues at his place of work.

Amateur Radio is a hobby, and volunteering to serve the community cannot take precedence over work and family. We wish both Dave and Pete the best in their future endeavours. Both men have expressed an interest in contributing where they are able. The remaining Board of Directors are Greg Braun N9CHA and Jim Sheetz K9OQO. Greg has stepped up to handle administrative tasks, revamp our web site, review current policy documents and audit the band plan. Dave Karr KA9FUR is the Frequency Coordinator. Gary Bargholz N9UUR is the Newsletter Editor. Travis Augustine W9HDG is helping to improve communication to our Wisconsin ham community by developing a new content management system.

What is the status of my coordination request?

By far this is the most pressing issue at hand. The direct answer is to review the list of Pending & In Progress coordination requests on the front page of the web. Specifically, each coordination request is being handled in the order they have been received. There is a back-log and it’s due mostly to time availability and administrative issues.

Unless you’ve had to coordinate a repeater yourself, it may be hard to understand what takes so long. It’s a multiple step process. Here are the steps required after you have submitted your coordination request.

  1. Your signed application form is administered by the Frequency Coordinator. The specific data is entered into a sophisticated coordination software program called CTK (Coordinators Tool Kit). This software was developed and maintained by Dave Karr KA9FUR, the Wisconsin Frequency Coordinator.
  2. If you have requested a specific frequency, it is checked against the data base for not only Wisconsin, but our adjoining states as well, depending on where in the State you are asking to be coordinated. This might be Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, Indiana or Michigan. More than one State may need to be checked.
  3. Your data regarding the coordination parameters, band, site location, antenna location, transmitter details are entered and subjected to a modeling program. No longer does WAR Inc. use a simple “protractor” approach to coordination. The bands are much too crowded for that simple method to be used. Not only is a frequency or pair of frequencies checked, but also the “first adjacent” frequencies are reviewed. To minimize interference to your station, and to minimize interference to others, a diagnostic approach is completed.
  4. Selection of frequency is now completed and your request is submitted to our neighboring frequency coordination councils. They are given the parameters of the coordination and are requested to reply to our request within 30 days. If there are no issues with the adjoining States, we will issue you an authorization for construction. This means you should complete your project and have it on the air within 6 months.
  5. The construction phase is your responsibility. Once you have your system on the air, your responsibility is to notify WAR Inc. that you’ve completed the construction and it’s ready for use. This may be a repeater, but also may be an Aux Link, a Control Link or perhaps a Remote Base. If you don’t let WAR Inc. know that you are completed with construction, your coordination will be terminated after 6 months.
  6. If for any reason you need more than 6 months to complete construction, you must contact WAR Inc. and explain your situation. In most cases you will be granted additional time for completion.

Frequency Coordination is accomplished before the construction and installation phase. You may already have all of the hardware under test, but not on the air. Remember, coordination first, on the air last.